Then back-off .2 grains and you should have your subsonic load. A case full of Trail Boss powder stays around 1100 fps behind a 150gr jacketed bullet and preliminary accuracy results are promising. A good example is a subsonic load in a . Dec 31, 2017. Playing around with Trail Boss and X-Treme plated bullets with my .308. whent out to put some down range Fraday and had alot of fun, literally thought I was shooting a .22. Trail Boss burns very clean and the accuracy with my 204 was plenty good, especially considering that I was not shooting for groups. Bullets..It is best to use a 1:10 or 1:8 twist barrel on your weapon. I tried the drilled flash hole/Clays or other standard pistol powder loads. He also really liked the ones I loaded up with Trail Boss to produce a 50 to 75 yd "Cat Sneeze" load. Posts: 225. iTrader: 33 / 100%. Ok, here's my 308 sub load: 13.7 grains Trailboss, Win Large rifle magnum primer, Sierra 220grain pro hunter round nose, 2.778" COAL, 1040 fps avg (chrono'd). They are just ridiculously quiet. Location: Belmont, NC (Sometimes) So, I have been working 308 loads for a suppressed rifle. The Trail Boss is a completely different animal next to the Convict, with comparatively tight spacing and much smaller knobs all . The 300 blk pretty much covers the .308 sub category in an auto that cycles reliably. Testing loads for the .308. S. Scoobyshoot. Trail Boss (TB) was originally designed to work in cowboy action cartridges like .38 Special and .45 Colt. I am new for reloading. A good manufactured subsonic round at 100 yards or meters should yield a group of .50 to .75 MOA with the fast twist barrels. Today I stumbled across a box of 180gr subsonic loads I loaded for my bolt gun a few years ago. It is a very low-density powder and is possibly the best powder for rifle cases and cast bullets. Worked down from 10 grains in one grain increments to 7.0 grains when it went subsonic and reasonably quiet. 1 0 2 0 7 1. Also there is a Trail Boss formula for working out loads. View attachment 587742 i don't know the range your thinking of but you will need to know the range to the target very accurately(the drop is shocking) , and in honesty I think subsonic 308 for fox is a 150m round max as a good sub load should group 2-3 inches at this range. 32-20 seating/crimp die (disassembled), Grafs. Sierra 220RN, Trail Boss 12gr, CCI250, 970fps. Coyote99 said: Not a .308, but for my 7mm-08, I load 160 gr. 308 load for a youth? Here is the load data for a 30-06 off of Hodgdon site. The WTB Trail Boss 27. and is subsonic. We identified it from reliable source. But has anyone else found some good loads? .223 sized brass (trimmed to length) SRP (in my case #41 CCI) 62gr SS109 bullets. The Trail Boss 308 loads are not in a reloading book but they have started to publish some 30-30 lead loads with Trail Boss. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles Member Join Date Mar 2011 Location Wyoming Posts 65 Feedback Score 0. Why not make a LR build worth it, like do something the Blk can't . Has anyone got a starting load for the 308 using either trail boss or even any of the ADI powders or pistol powders. We agree to this kind of 308 Rifle Bullets For Reloading graphic could possibly be the most trending topic bearing in mind we allocation it in google benefit or facebook. RIFLE RELOADING DATA 2 #2100 .308" 110 gr. The trail boss and titegroup loads that are on Hodgdons website are subsonic. 0:00. About 308 Loads Trail Boss . 3 6 8 1. 2 6 0. Pleasant to shoot even in a sporter weight rifle and accuracy respectable at under 1 moa at 100 yards (i.e. Hodgdon offers more than a dozen different propellants for reloading 223/5. of unique behind a cast lead 200 gr. Location: El Toro, CA 92630. 308 with Hornady 90 XTP Subsonic with Trail Boss. 10-28-11, 21:49 #2. I picked up some 308 processed brass from Kaleo Arms at the gun show. Accurate to 100 yds, and hits the 200 yd steel with no adjustment. 215gr polymer coated Missouri Bullets loaded to 1050 fps. Try Trail Boss. About Trail Loads 308 Boss . We agree to this kind of 308 Rifle Bullets For Reloading graphic could possibly be the most trending topic bearing in mind we allocation it in google benefit or facebook. M A X I M U M 1. Three different loads, velocities from 1290-1390, decent accuracy. So i am casting my own projectiles sized to my barrel and using trail boss powder. The subsonic loads hit a couple feet below point of aim at 100 yards. Hornady Match Bullets 30 Cal (308 Diameter) 168 Grain Hollow Point As for a starting load, I would start low around 9.5 grains of Trail Boss, working up in .2 grain increments (while shooting over a chrono) to find at which powder charge your particlar rifle goes supersonic. There is some good load information on the internet. Squirrel and rabbit loads. For a sub-sonic 308 load I run 180 gn Hornady SST, 10.5 gn of IMR Trail Boss and a CCI Magnum primer from a 20" 1-in-10 twist barrel. I have a 1:12 twist barrel on my 700 P and I get marginal performance. 308 subsonic rounds. Please list any subsonic 308 WIN load data below. These reduced loads make firing Listed below we show a few examples of such loads throughout the Reloading Data Center, but the fun doesn't stop there. These reduced loads make firing Listed below we show a few examples of such loads throughout the Reloading Data Center, but the fun doesn't stop there. Don't know Atomic's. EBR-INC sells 308 Win subs over the counter, and they are using Trail Boss. Trail Boss is based on new technology that allows very-high loading density, good flow through powder measures, stability in severe temperature variation, and, most importantly, additional safety to the handloader. I am shooting it out of a Remington 700 with a. 10.5 with a 180 flat base sp Nosler will shoot 1030 to 1055 The Trail Boss is a completely different animal next to the Convict, with comparatively tight spacing and much smaller knobs all . . I'm thinking about trail boss and 168gr bullets (may try heavier RN bullets), but wanted to see if anybody had any loads that were stabilizing well for them and performing well in regards to accuracy. There has been a lot of chatter on Internet sites lately about centerfire loads that fire bullets at subsonic velocities. The max load is just the fastest that keeps it . With the 308 Winchester paired with the 150 Pro-Hunter and 168 SMK, I was able to make loads that had a muzzle velocity of approximately 60% of the full power charge (1,933 feet/second for the 150 and 1,856 feet/second for the 168), but it is possible to go even slower and lighter safely, with another powder, Trail Boss. I have also used sub sonic .308 loads using Tite Group. And the best way to get sub sonic loads is to use heavier bullets with light powders like Trail Boss. Looks like it would be ideal. Has anybody worked up a subsonic load for the RFB yet? The kernels of powder look like. 308 case up with Trail Boss and a 200 grain bullet and be anywhere near subsonic. Trail Boss 5.6 Energy/ft.lbs 269 882 977 1077 1182 1292 1407 INDICATES MAXIMUM LOAD - USE CAUTION LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED. Sierra 150-grain Pro-Hunter bullets and Trail Boss fired from a .308 Winchester rifle shot this group at 50 yards. Attached is your requested reloading data report in PDF format. 1; 2 . COVERBUSTER. Kiwi here is a quick run down on subsonic .308 ammo. 308 subsonic loads. A chronograph is a must to tune the loads to match the individual barrel. None were really useful. I currently have tried 11 grains of trail boss with a 200 grain hornaday eld. This got me thinking. Re: Subsonic load for 308 with Trail Boss Finally hooked up with my buddy to test the Sub-sonics in his rifle. The most common .308 subsonic load I know of (and that has been around for many years) is the following: 10 Grains of Trail Boss powder (OR substitute 8.2 gr. *Shaded column displays subsonic load data. My loads may not be right for your bullets/case if you are seating bullets too deep or out far. I was anxious to try TG so loaded 3.3g and 3.1g of TG with a 55 Hornady SP and got ~ 1000 fps and mid 900's respectively. I've already loaded some 168gn Trail Boss to test but can't find any data for CFE BLK. They shoot 1/2" groups out of my Ruger Scout rifle with 16" barrel at 100 yds and they are the quietest subs you will ever shoot. The Discreet Ballistics 308 Win Selous Subsonic Hunting load was conceived as part of a two load system. 308 subsonic rounds. Last Sat I took a group of TRAIL BOSS loads to range. It was pretty quite. A powder that came out a few years ago is Trail Boss. i don't know the range your thinking of but you will need to know the range to the target very accurately(the drop is shocking) , and in honesty I think subsonic 308 for fox is a 150m round max as a good sub load should group 2-3 inches at this range. 250 Savage, and other medium burn rate cartridges. I shoot a lot of Sierra 125 and 150 SPT in my 308's using reduced loads of H4895 for general target practice and informal 100yard matches at club. 308 Winchester 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.690" 10.5 1,039 30,100 PSI 30-06 Springfield 150 GR NOS BT Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.780" 13.3 1,061 14,700 PSI 45-70 Government 385 GR CAST LFP Hodgdon Trail Boss .458" 2.505" 14 1,075 19,400 CUP The 1:11.25 twist 18" bbl has me wary of heavier bullets, especially non-round nose style. Setpoint does as well and though I've never handled any of them those who have have told me Trail Boss there as well. My old shooting centre used it for lead bullets loads in .303, 7.62mm x 54R, .30-06 and .308. Keep in mind that I set my COAL based on the max chamber length in my Savage Axis minus 0.015". Trail Boss is a pretty fast powder, so I doubt if it would give you the lowest pressure for the same velocity. So I have been working up a load with bullseye powder to keep it under 1090fps for a subsonic .308 load. containers. I purchased my 308 suppressor today and have now began the waiting game. I have gotten loads with each that come in right about an inch at 100 yards. Kiwi here is a quick run down on subsonic .308 ammo. 3,727. If you ever feel like no one cares if you live or die, try missing a few car payments. These loads and others were shot with Trail Boss powder in an attempt to develop subsonic velocities (left to right): .30-06, .308 Winchester, .30-30 Winchester, .243 Winchester, .223 Remington. I have recently been working up subsonic loads for 308 using Trail boss and TiteGroup with 170gr Sieerra flat noses. YMMV but the following 308 subsonic loads have worked great for me. I have never loaded 308 before so I checked out the Hodgdon site and was surprised to see Titegroup as a powder choice. Based on the suggestion given I would do a work up between 8.0 and 12.0gr of trail boss in .5gr increments. they said 7gr. Any one try Trail Boss? 5.2gr Trail Boss (fills case nicely - does not meter to well though *donut shaped powder) OAL - 2.255. I usually find a sweet spot right around 1050-1075 fps. So 7.0 grains is perfect in my 16" Blaser 308 / Gunworks suppressor. « on: October 10, 2016, 09:27:02 PM ». 308 Load with Titegroup. . The large volume of this powder makes it possible to fill up a large case for a safe powder burning without the high pressures that would come into play with other smokeless powders. load specs Rainier Lead Safe Bullets 300 AAC Blackout (308 Diameter) Subsonic 180 Grain Plated Hollow Point mix brass Winchester large rifle primer 9.5gr trail boss (anyting over 9.8gr went super in my gun) light crimp (lee factory crimp) 2.7" OAL other proven loads for me Hornady 170gr flat point interlock (30-30 bullet) Winchester large rifle . Subsonic speeds limit range to about that distance. Rifle is AAC SD .308 1\10 STOCK Leupold 10x ultra Trail boss 10.8gr with a 200gr Lapua with standard Rem large rifle primers will av 1050 all day at 71.5F. I prefer 190 sierra matchkings because they are a good universal round and it's money will spent. Ride your bike through increasingly tricky levels while pulling off daring stunts huge combos tests of accuracy and skill. If you are concerned about ignition use a magnum primer. Hello Chasey. a lot of he scaremongering about subsonic loads was pre trail boss ! Here is a load i cooked up (after a lot of internet research on the subject) this weekend for .223 subsonic. Many of these loads may be at or above maximum and should be used with extreme caution. Joined Jun 5, 2017 Messages 19 I would like to load some rounds for a 30-06 for grouse while big game hunting. You need a 1-10" twist barrel to ensure bullet stability so you can avoid a baffle strike. I bought some 170 gr round nose 30/30 bullets and a can of Trail Boss that I feel will work nice for subsonic loads. Remington LTR 308 Win. 5) 60% start load for IMR 4895 is 20. projo for 1050fps. Then tried 7.5 grains and plenty of noise again. Reloading quality matchgradesubsonic ammo. I cannot find the paper I wrote the speeds on but remember the 27 gr load was 1800+fps. of Trail Boss and get @ 1050 fps out of a 22 inch barrel of my TC Venture compact. Its submitted by government in the best field. i called sierra reloading tech for .308 susonic info. Subsonic load for 308 Im after some loads for the 208gr and 212 projectiles I have if they don't sell. Most of the information I have found online suggest Red Dot, Titegroup, and especially Trail Boss for such ventures. Zbroyar Z-10Помощь каналу на камеру и штатив)ПБ: 4731 2191 1695 1231Монобанк: 4441 1144 2037 7853 While not sub sonic, I'm loading down to about 2300 to 2400 f/s. I have a 1:12 twist barrel on my 700 P and I get marginal performance. Trail boss powder does it great. About Trail Boss Loads 308 . We load 175gr SMK's subs in .308 using Trailboss. ADI Trail Boss - 1. I'm new to reloading and I'm trying to find a good subsonic load for my .308 to use with my suppressor. Here is the loads from there: TRAIL BOSS .30-06 PLINKING LOADS WITH 165-GRAIN CAST BULLET CHARGE VELOCITY (GRAINS WEIGHT) (FPS) 7 920 8 1,009 9 1,112 10 1,141 Available in 9 oz. Load Development. groups range in the .65 to . Both those loads are subsonic according to my Chrony and with a silencer on each they make barely a pop . In the meantime I would like to go ahead and roll up a few subsonic loads, particularly in 308 and 223. A subsonic LR that reliably cycles so far seems an elusive creation that so few have mastered it seems it can't be done. In any case, use a bullet with a crimping groove. Remington's traditional 180 grain Core-Lokt performs extremely well on large bodied deer of up to 320kg (700lb) at close ranges, a reliable economy load for those on a limited budget. Research found that Hogdon used to have a subsonic load listed with a 168g bullet and 8g Tite Group. It only takes around 12 grains of Trail Boss Powder to be right on the line of subsonic/supersonic with a 200 grain bullet. 223 subsonic load data. Trail boss is the way to go. Can't find any Remington Managed Recoil ammo on the shelf. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 20 of 22 Posts. Stabilizes just fine. Because of the fluffy nature of Trail Boss powder, ignition is more consistent and propellant burn more complete with a crimp. Tuesday I found a 4 lb jug of Tite Group at a local GS and grabbed it. 38 Special,. I'm about to delve into subsonic loads in the 44 MAG , 444 and 45-70 using Trailboss or whatever it takes to get them in the 1025 FPS range . right now trying to load a subsonic & supersonic 308 for my hunting rifle in 1:8 twist, 16" currently for the subsonic i am thinking about: Sierra #2180 220GR RN, Trail Boss and maybe mag primer? Hodgdon Trail Boss is a great smokeless powder for cartridges like the old 45-70 Government or subsonic load in .308 Winchester. My pet load for my .308 Rem 700 is about 10.5gns of commercial #1 powder pushing a 190 SMK. I load lots of .38 with Trail Boss and love how it works. It still lists a 223 load with TG but no 308 Win. Max magazine length wasn't an issue. The info is in the Jan 07 issue of Guns. 4: 2,182: 19. 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