Rudy Trujillo By now there seemed to be hundreds of people in the crash area. Halfway through the recording immediately after graduation speakerLinda Latrelle says We have only one life to live the DC-7 can be heard plummeting into the schools athletic field just a few hundred feet from the auditorium. I was at my friend Pattis house, playing with her Moms box of buttons on the living room floor. I thought it was actually a high school and it was a football field, but that was the perspective of a 5 year old. It must have been the DC7 falling to earth. I too was adjacent to the junior HS. Thinking back it was rather eerie, like the sound of a plane plummeting out of the sky in a movie scene. I think this makes you my homey, Susan. We had moved to Pacoima at the beginning of the school year. But he NEVER complains or asks why me?This recording is riveting. It sounds like it should be the name of an evil extraterrestrial or something]. Youll wind up getting the grade you were going to get anyway plus an ulcer (and bad airplane dreams). And, other than the pictures my parents had of me, Ive not seen one of me until I saw the one on the page of the Pacoima Post. I had forgotten that John Buchanan was her father. Man, those would be difficult images to shake as a kid or as an adult, for that matter. Unauthorized duplication is prohibited]. I was just 6 years old and leaving kindergarten at Beachy Elementary School, just west of Pacoima Jr. Hi. If so, did you learn the identity of the teacher aiding the injured student? He took his job very seriously. And then someone pointed high in the sky and we saw a parachute (which turned out to be the surviving crewman of the F89) and watched it descend and it appeared to land not too far from our school. Dad took us to see the crash when he got home from work. Im wondering if I had him as a teacher. But I think I remember them from Pacoima Junior High, not Beachy. My mother, long story short, worked full-time for several dentists in Santa Monica, enabling my brother and I to graduate from Palisades High School. Ive been amazed at the responses to this post and how many commenters who saw or heard the plane come down but were not directly harmed by the crash were nonetheless deeply affected, in one way or other, for their entire lives. If not, I have yours and Ill send it to you. (sp) Street? Plus a few others Mrs. Aldritch, my kindergarten teacher, Mr. Simpson (I think), my first grade teacher and Miss Christie, second grade, who tried desperately to get me to switch from being left handed to no avail. It seemed to take a long time to come down. Ive been having that kind of trouble lately someone even tried to post my audio at another site and it only reduces readership at these pages. Whenever I play golf at Hansen Damn, I always try to drive through the old neighborhood. We were in the open when the debris starting falling and the ground shaking. I remember, Rustys dad ran for political office. Eight people were killed, including three students at Pacoima Junior High School. We used to visit him at the hospital while he was recovering and suffering through painful skin grafts. I posted a comment on Russ Buchanans website some time ago asking anyone who was on the field that day to contact me. HE CARRIED HIS GUITAR WHERE EVER HE WENT. It was a warm day and our teacher had both doors to the classroom open. I knew one of the boys who was injured in the crash. If there is anyone else, please call me. The crash also prompted the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) to set restrictions on all aircraft test flights, both military and civilian, requiring that they be made over open water or specifically approved sparsely populated areas.[4]. Another boy beat out the flames with his leather jacket. . Wow, I remember almost all the students names you mentioned Gates, Liff, Roberts and Maltz and all the teachers you named. I was attending near-by Fernangeles Grammar Achool and remember that day vividly. One minute into the recording, the faint-but-unmistakable sound of a rapidly descending aircraft crescendos into a roar of crashing airplane, immediately followed by the sounds of confusion and fear in the auditorium. The clip is quite sobering. Hopefully, we can wring something positive out of a terrible tragedy. Thank you, Mr. Buchanan. I was in the third grade. I hope you were able to contact each other. Many commenters on these pages were in nearby elementary schools when it happened. I do remember Brian OConnell and think I could find him some of the class pictures from Beachy. I myself am from europe and didnt no anything about this incident before my little exam/school related nightmare, and if there was not written anything about it on the internet i would never ever have known anything about what happened in in 1957, i dont even know where carlifonia is on a map, so i think your story is really reaching out to people. Interesting you said Wollensak.I can still see the cover of that reel to reel tape and it was 3M. And this was 2 years before the Buddy Holly crash. All four crew members of the DC-7 died in the crash, as did the pilot of the F-89. Fascinating stuff. The loss of life could have been so much worse. Those sights would have been tough enough for any adult to handle, let alone elementary-aged kids. http://www.joangushin.net/ThenAndNow.html. At least, I hope so. Hi Marilyn, I too remember you! All of us at the fence line knew children were hurt and killed. We crossed the Pacific Ocean four times in DC-7s. Off to one side, a large plane engine lay embedded 15 ft down in the Earth, smoldering with an acrid fume. In January 1957, a Douglas DC-7B collided with a U.S. Air Force F-89 jet over the San Fernando Valley. But still, Im pretty darned sure I did see it. Ill never forget seeing one of the students hopping away to safety on one leg. Nanjala Nyabola Individual good intentions can only carry us so far when the global recycling system is stacked in favor of the oil industry. Thank you very much for commenting and sharing the post with your family. Im a cousin of Ronnie Brann who lost his life that day. In fact, the thought that those sons or daughters might be traumatized by hearing the recording almost kept me from posting it. A third gravely injured student died two days later in a local hospital. He left the school yard in shock and a neighbor lady found him walking home and picked him up. I guess 20,000 + feet. The remains of Carr, Twitchell and the other crew members -- radio operator Roy Nakazawa, 28, and flight engineer Waldo B. Adams, 42, both of Los Angeles -- were found in the fuselage, which smacked into the ground at Pacoima Congregational Church, adjacent to the school. I found this blog while Google searching for information about that crash. Even though the comments here concern a tragic day in the old neighborhood, reading them reminds me of my old stomping grounds and what a terrific place it was to spend my first 17 years. When I first heard the audio, that phrase, We have one life to live, jumped out at me almost seemed like a premonition. I remember discussing in class what had just happened, what we had just whiteness. Embarrassingly enough, Ive never really thought about its continuation as a free, public-accessible document after Ive shuffled into the Great Beyond, or at least failed to maintain my account here for some other, less dramatic reason. Im delighted that a) you used it and b) it worked for you. I believe there was a connection between the two houses of worship during the 60s civil rights struggle. Yeah, that is one stunning little piece of Valley history like an audio time capsule. Hey just a BIG hello, I was in your class too, and was in the auditorium with you, I think its interesting you are in Duluth Minn. thats where I was born and lived until we came to Pacoima, Ca. (And I hope you dont mind that I included a link to your page.). The image of a hunk of metal slicing through an elementary school classroom is terrifying. We were unable to find an existing triage system to use. Yes, not only do people remember that day, but it seems to be etched in the memory of many. Im glad I was able to provide a forum for a few of the witnesses and survivors. I was in the 4th grade at Montague that day. The pilot died in the crash. Good to hear from a neighbor I lived in one of the very nearby tract homes and was always impressed by houses like yours, with the gigantic yards and big ranch-style houses. I was in the auditorium on the day of the crash, practicing for my graduation. He also had a second profession as a movie actor. Sadly, while researching the crash I found that Coach Vardanian died in June 1964 (Heroes and Teachers Possemato, et al., Google Books) a mere seven years after his heroism at age 34. Thanks again for sharing it and for sharing your familys experience. Such a horrible thing to happen. My Dad was at home less than a block away. Paul Morse, who passed away a few years ago, was a very close friend of my family. Thanks for commenting, Anthony. Hi Mike thank you for your detailed recollection. Also, why did your mom rush the two of you toward the disaster? It was designed for folks that were interested in Vocational Instruction and Vocational Course Development. Such a sad day for so many! The Paramedic system was new and I graduated in the 6th Paramedic class in 1975. My sister and I lost touch with Cindy, his sister, in the late sixties. I thought I might be able to click and drag it to the comment section but that didnt work. Regarding dangerous test flights: As I understand it, Pacoima parents spearheaded a successful drive to enact legislation banning future test flights over densely populated areas. Another part of the story is that Russ and our mom had been at the Pacoima Congregational Church, just next door to PJH, earlier that morning. Russ, I have put text to your audio file into an mp4. I was traumatized for years, fearful of every jet flying overhead, I am still uncomfortable flying. I remember thinking, please dont put one of those things in my hair or on my clothes. She and one of the girls in our classroom were clutched together. In doing so, it began raining debris onto the Pacoima neighborhoods below as the aircraft began to break apart. Ill relay this web site to him. Yeah, I know what you mean about roots. If you dont mind, Id like to include a link to your site on my Pacoima page. He seemed to like the attention and didnt appear bothered by it. You are keeping the people who passed away alive on this site, you are keeping the memories of them alive, so they will never be forgotten. MIchael Russell also a graduate of James Monroe High School, as was Donna. Thank you for posting this, it has been shared with the rest of our family. I wondered if I actually saw the debris in the air, but now I believe I did. The History Guy made a report of this crash recently (July, 2018): Hi, Dan yeah, I checked it out. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B operated by Douglas Aircraft Company was involved in a mid-air collision with a United States Air Force Northrop F-89 Scorpion and crashed into the schoolyard of Pacoima Junior High School located in Pacoima, a suburban area in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, California. Bronya Feldmann. Link to the other page Thank you. I was friends with Pam and I remember Karen Bakken as well. One more way the Buchanan family was connected to that grisly day. John was their bass player. They had come to the school because, of course, they had children there. I have never been there, this will be a first for me. wow that sent chills. Then, when I got to Pacoima Jr. High the drills just stopped. He told me that hes not sure he wants to listen to the tape, but Ill bet he will. Probably both. I still remember some of the kids in my classes like Craig Bentley, Walter Gorse, Jeff Abraham, Pam Gates, Scott Roberts, Suzanne Maltz, Dennis Liff, Jim Roubal, As far as teachers, I remember Mr. Marto, Mrs. Oshatz, Mrs. Stowsky and I believe it was Mr. Praglin who taught class and kept his pack of cigarettes in his front shirt pocket. He still has bad dreams and I believe he was profoundly affected in ways we may never know. At Pacoima Jr. HIgh, Rustys locker was next to mine. well the show did an episode covering the collision between a f-4b of the usmc and hughes airwest 706 a dc-9 in 1971 and from the animation it must have horrible as the dc-9 come down like a falling leaf till impact with mount bliss, i honestly wonder to myself if we take how safe flying is today for granted cause an accident like this has becoming very rare nowadays with tcas and improved radars. To be honest i know it might be a burden for you but at the same time it will spread the knowledge about this plane crash even more. I remember a lot of parents running towards the school and I saw my parents who to say the least were ecstatic to see me alive. Regarding Valens friends: According to a remembrance of that day by a friend of Valens, the young singers best friend was one of the three students killed. Kris. It seemed as if hundreds of mothers and their little children gathered at the fence line, frantic and crying. We heard a loud roaring sound and all of us turned toward the windows facing the courtyard. The noise of the crash was so much louder than It sounded in the recording, but my husband, who was in the graduating class at San Fernando Jr. High, and did not hear the plane crash, said, when he heard the recording, Wow.. those hospitalized in the air collision and crash of two airplanes in Pacoima: At San Fernando Hospital: Robert Curry, 12, 13722 Pierce St., Pacoima, broken left ankle and foot. Now it makes me think of your father too (but in a good way). Yeah, I liked him too. Children were running and screaming. I was chatting with a man I met in the waiting room at Holy Cross Surgery Center today. I believe Evan was in one of dads classes. I rarely get to southern California but I will be in the area on June 4 and June 5. I had a clear view of the plane. Both jets and the DC-7B were performing their individual tests at an altitude of 25,000 feet (7,600m) in clear skies over the San Fernando Valley when, at about 11:18a.m., a high-speed, near-head-on midair collision occurred. Thats why you hear the tape speeding up at the end. I wonder what ever happened to Roy Reasoner? Hi, James thanks for commenting. My husband was there that day and suffered burns and shrapnal (sp?) Suddenly, Mr. Snyder saw me and literally picked me up by the scruff of my neck and the seat of my pants and threw me back into my room and dove in behind me! He was lucky and only got a minor elbow injury. It appears the kid is walking toward the school? In 1957, a plane collision crash killed seven people two pilots and two crew members, three children and injured about 75 other students at Pacoima Junior High School, now Pacoima Middle School, during a graduation ceremony where 800 children were in attendance, according to the New York Times and the Aviation Safety Network database. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B collided with a United States Air Force Northrop F-89 Scorpion. A few months ago I was listening to the recording for the zillionth time, and decided to put it up on the blog. This site has confirmed my memories of the crash. I always thought it would have been kinda fun to be in his class. Archie Raymond Twitchell (November 28, 1906 - January 31, 1957) was a pilot for over three decades between the 1920s and the 1950s. God bless you all and thank you for sharing your stories. I appreciated your comments. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. At 11:18 a.m., one moved into a wide turn 25,000 feet above the San Fernando Valley. I have been to that site, and youre right, there are some very interesting and moving entries there. office next to the gym field when the plane went down, thought it was a nuclear attack, as well. He was a Sabre Jet mechanic. My cousin, Chris Carr, forwarded an article about the 50-year reunion at PJHI would have loved to attended! Dave. Thanks, Im ok. Yeah, thats what I remember dad telling me. Mr. Buchanan, Im so glad you were able to remember the coachs name Coach Vardanien. They were probably looking for info that was already in the rumor mill. I am now teaching disaster response to emergency services and, with your permission, would like to utilize the recording in my classes. Adams injuries were not critical and he was able to eject. I suppose a teacher or student activated one after impact. It was so cold here recently, it made me think of the real, world-class cold I felt when we did your ballet in, what was it, 2008? I returned to Beachy at the very end of my sixth grade (following a semester at Lowman School for the Handicapped). We have been married 35 years. I was never sure if that was true or if it was just dads way of getting me to quit the band I was in at the time. I turned around to see all the debri in the air. Thank you for writing about your memory of that day. My only memory of this event was my parents speaking in hushed tones after reading/hearing a news report. My parents and I never spoke of the plane crash again. Hi Jerry Wish I could help you contact Monk, but all I know about him is that he submitted this piece a few years ago and he agreed to let me post it. My brother passed away many years ago, so I cant talk to him about it. My sister was in the 6th grade at Terra Bella school and was quite traumatized. Kris. Amy Wilentz The deadly consequences of the Biden administrations policy of no policy. He said something about getting back to the Base because he hadnt checked out. You lived on Van Nuys Blvd. Thank you for your posting the audio tape. 1957 Pacoima mid-air collision - Wikipedia 1957 . It was organized under the California Office of Emergency Services. I am a man now, not a kid. And thanks for your excellent suggestion about bequeathing this sound file. 8th and 9th grades. I was 18 years old when this crash took place. Sorry to hear he was killed at such a tender age. Some kids hid under their desks, others dog-piled on the floor in front of the teacher, I was one of those. We were both very lucky that day. Three students and . Your lifetime discomfort with flying seems to be a common thread among many who were personally affected by the crash including your chum, Richie Valens. I finished 3rd grade there. Meanwhile, in Palmdale to the north . Background [ edit] One day near the end of my involvement with the family, she said something about body parts, children running and screaming, and airplane. Just one more comment, January 31, 1957 was my thirteen birthday; one I will never forget. I only had time to check out the Pacoima section of your site just now, but I find the premise of CemeteryGuide.com Stories Behind the Stones fascinating. Hundreds of mothers in the neighborhood were also running toward the school, all of them screaming as we all descended on the horrible sight. My sister, who had left the athletic field moments before impact, is definitely a white-knuckler. [1][2][3], The DC-7B, which was earmarked for delivery to Continental Airlines, took off from the Santa Monica Airport at 10:15a.m. on its first functional test flight, with a crew of four Douglas personnel aboard. Hope you are doing well! So no, I have no lasting fears of flying. I think the rest of the classroom was reading. As it turned out, my brothers class was safe. I developed the Orange County Mass Casualty Plan as my class project. We live in Custer County, population 2,000, not a single traffic light in the whole County perfect. My father was the pilot of the DC-7 and my parents had moved to the Pacific Palisades from La Canada two years prior to the crash. I remember looking up and the sky being filled with what appeared to be confetti, debree from the crash. I remember seeing the pilot also. Russ, I was just looking through the blog again for familiar names (I wrote my memories earliert). Glad your dad and sister were not part of the carnage. He ran as fast as he could from the sound he said. This was truly cathartic for me. Sometimes it takes time to put two and two together. God bless, Russ, God bless you and all those who visit here. Matt Davies Again. His sister and the rest of the Boyd/Brann family remember him with love. Heres why thats wrong. Jeet Heer The Establishment focus on personal scandals helps cover up the former presidents reckless belligerence. I do still live in the Valley, but far from good old Beachy. Nuts and bolts and debris began to rain down on roof, but nothing that was large enough to cause any damage. Of the many times I have related the story to people through the years, my most vivid recall has been of the line in Lindas commencement speech about having only one life to live. I also remember seeing ceiling tiles falling and hanging lamps swaying back and forth. On that day I was in 4th grade and in my classroom when we all heard the DC-7. What an interesting find that must have been. I was in the 6th grade at Beachy Ave. If anyone knows, please write. The pilot, Roland Earl Owen, 35, of Palmdale, went down with the jet in La Tuna Canyon; the radar operator, Curtiss A. Adams, 27, parachuted to safety. However, it appears you overcame your fear of flying IN A BIG WAY. One of the guys started pointing to the sky to the northwest and we saw the DC7 plummeting to earth. Ill check some of the comments and my correspondence for some other likely candidates. Get the day's top news with our Today's Headlines newsletter, sent every weekday morning. I was 13 months old. My Father, Bill Carr, was the pilot of the DC-7. I dont know if there were problems with the medical response, but I do know that valley residents demanded that test flights cease over the Valley and they did. My mom never really said much about the kids that were killed and injured so sad, but they arent alone, as I think about it often myself and wonder what my life would be like today had I had my father. He had good social skills at an early age. Wreckage was still on fire, strewn everywhere, having slammed into fences, backstops, basketball hoops, and, of course, children, who lay everywhere, burned and bleeding from gashes too grisly to comprehend. Johnny and I were friends and I remember having dinner with your family. I am working on my audio skills and have new software to clean it up and correct the speed. My cousin, Ronnie, died on the playground that day. I TOTALLY understand and COMPLETELY respect your thought process regarding posting this, however to me this audio represents a piece of history for those of us who live or have lived in the valley as well as those who are familiar with the Ritchie Valens story. The heat from the 100 foot tall flames to my right were hotter than the oil I was laying in. I thank my brother, Phil, for sending this link. START is now a module of the National Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) curriculum. All things considered, I think the recordings stark almost brutal reminding of the tragedy has been cathartic for many of these folks. RB, Russ Is the school still there and has the neighborhood changed much? 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