Let me fix that for you. ! It's not a question of how much boost the internals can take. But even at 6 psi, it is fast. When you want more boost, buy a smaller pulley. The transmission is rated to handle 383 ft/lbs of torque in stock form. Boost itself doesn't pop headgaskets. Know alot of blown guys including myself that run 20+ lbs of boost on a higher compression engine when they are built correctly. You can run a 35r safely on stock but engine life is usually dependent on the tune and how you drive/maintain it. The risk is always there when upping the boost on stock turbos. I simply wanted an example of what power an internally stock 13b could handle while still remaining reliable as it is going to be a drift car and therefore be abused in an extremely different manner the way I can gather your car was treated. 1. Only show this user. For example, the first engine in our Pikes Peak WRX Race car ran a stock EJ255 at about 400 whp for a number of events that added up to around 3,000 track miles. #16. what the max boost u can run on a stock ls3 ? BMW's N54 can handle similar power on stock internals, along with Nissan's RB26. I have a stock 350 ci ( ChevyVan 1881 ). 6spd MT - currently has no limit as far as I know. When I looked into turbo/supercharging (this was some time back) around 6psi on a stock engine with stock compression ratio and street gasoline was the safe limit. Obviously with a tune. Car runs fine with no mechanical problems. The Alky injection has been shown to reduce intake temps by like 30 degrees, which would obviously allow you to up the boost without fear of premature detonation on pump gas. Compression ratios of 10:1 and higher require lower boost levels, higher octane fuel, intercooling, or some combination of the above. So you can expect quite a bit of reliability of those stock engines if you "only" go to 380hp and don't race it too much. I am looking at keeping it low to start with, like around 4-5 pounds, and eventually getting up to 10-12 after I build up the engine a bit so if anyone could give me info or options that would be awesome. The fact that the LS motor w/ tranny is so cheap will help alot when building the motor for boost. They also went over to some TCR engines and it was stated that it's the stock block with a few bolt-ons. The stock compression is 10.0:1 and without using a head spacer or lowering your compression you can boost it to 350whp. Right now have plenty of fuel with 1000cc injectors and all the extras to handle the power . Best replacement turbos for close to 600whp if she can … 1-1.5 Lbs. Hi, I have an 01 celica gt with the 1.8 1zz-fe with 130,000 miles on it. 1 - 14 of 14 Posts. I think you guys are all dreamin' if you think the 3.7 will take 12-14 psi of boost for very long without swapping to forged pistons. 6spd MT - currently has no limit as far as I know. 10lbs of boost on a t25 will not yield as much power as 10lbs of boost on a GT30. How much boost can a stock 6.0 take? Any Nissan RB/SR or Toyota JZ can handle boost well. On our 529hp 6.0L, this meant we could generate as much as 1,058 hp at 14.5 psi of boost, if everything went according to the formula (and the engine survived). You really think the stock b16 block can handle 15psi? I was at 389whp and 441trq on line for a while and had no issue and it was driving very hard every time as my car is just a toy. Top. Mar 28, 2006. peter@APS said: As long as yur running on 93 octane, have very efficient intercooling (cold charge air temperature) and a safe tuning strategy (safe ignition timing retard under boost and afr not too lean) then up to 9 PSI is very safe on the stock LS2 engine. But first you need to get some good tires. 6spd AT - max known is 336hp. Boost: Stock rung lands can only hold a max of 25psi. (arp head studs, head gaskets, etc)4. Also, the fuel delivery system will probably need to be upgraded. and the engine can make more power to 9+ rpm with the kt1 cams . 7-8 lbs of boost might be a really high number for that engine. Things like injection timing, EGT, oiling capability at high rpm, boost, drive pressure, and how much low-end torque you’re dealing with all dictate how long (or short) a stock rod engine will live at higher horsepower. If you have a stock engine, with a compressor that is factory set to produce no more than twenty pounds of boost, you shouldn’t modify the system to make it produce much more than 25 pounds of boost. He is what everything can usually handle safely:rods-12 PSI, pistons -12 PSI, stock sleeves-14 PSI, stock sleeves with block guard-16-18 PSI. Bottom line: if you hit full boost a lot expect to slay your engine no matter how well it's built. LAKE ERIE Z32. Your engine and can blow with as little as 300 whp with a bad tune. Obviously with a tune. I guess I just pointed it out for a point of interest. The engines can be paired with either a manual or automatic transmission, depending on the engine. and more ive heard a standard vg30dett can handle 500bhp my question is can i run the turbo on low boost and have it set up for 400bhp ish on standard engine? And actually, 3,000 track/race miles on an engine is not too bad at all. You should ask somehting like 'How much power can the SRT4 handle?' Ensure no boost leaks or other issues that may kill the turbos sooner. A Cosworth CNC-ported 4G63 head flow about 10-percent better on the intake and nearly 20-percent better on the exhaust than the factory heads. The car's virtually indestructible 2JZ straight-six can take all kinds of turbo boost with ease, solidifying it as one of the most iconic engines … How much boost is the maximum safe boost pressure depends on how well your engine is built. Save. It supposedly can take up to 420hp and last ~25k km race-pace with a sequential gearbox. people keep saying im goin 2 blow the engine. C. you can boost up to 8psi safely and 10psi if you have a good fuel sys. However, I have never seen an scientific data to support any of it, so take it all with a grain of salt. I know a couple people with stock bottom ends putting close to 400whp so thats about 430-450 chp. This inlcudes boost ramp up overshoot. Supercharger On A 6.0. The connecting rod has a tough job. i'm think your numbers is a record on a stock a2, 600whp in 8000rpm. And the 5.0 has forged powdered metal rods, that is the only stronger thing the 3.7 has, forged solid steel rods. I personally plan to put 400 or so to my stock VQ35de with boost. Cuz I have a 427 small block. 18 will put you around 390-440. He is what everything can usually handle safely:rods-12 PSI, pistons -12 PSI, stock sleeves-14 PSI, stock sleeves with block guard-16-18 PSI. How much boost can a stock 6.0 take? If you go the supercharger route, there is not really a current kit on the market that will push the envelope as far as the limits of the stock engine. i hear that supras with stock internals can hold up to 800hp without a problem. I installed a single turbo system on it. Daily driven or just for a … Great little engine here guys. Ive heard of … Will i blow head gaskets with 30lb or am I safe The stock 4.6L 4v aluminum block motor can handle 500-550 rwhp. Discussion in ' Mazdaspeed 3/6 Engine ' started by Bobby , Sep 23, 2020 . Most people boost around 10 PSI on a stock engine with less than 100K miles on it. If it's less than 50K miles than I say go for 12 PSI, it will make your BOV sound better. But get Hondata no matter what you boost, it will save your engine trust me. 07-29-2003, 03:13 PM. boost maybe... 50 hp maybe....The pulley may cause the pcm to pull timing. Boost pressure is a measure of resistance. Sure, some engines survive higher horsepower just fine. RE: Boost limits on 5.2 or 4.7 IP: Logged Message: thanx guys, but does anyone know which engine can handle more boost? 8 psi is for stockish motors. Shouldn't have ANYTHING to worry about! continue this topic guys its a good one. I've been out of this for awhile, but it was always safe to say a stock D could handle anywhere from 220whp to 250whp if properly tuned. tho with a 99 u should hav a ball bearing turbo whereas i had a bushing turbo in my OBS so ull be … You could add the rods and pistons and spend another $5k to run from 6-12lbs of boost putting you up with the hellcat.. jn the end around $15k. Nonetheless, the S55's max boost on stock turbos is as follows: ~30 PSI max boost. Though, with all the power of the mighty Mustang, Ford has beefed up the trouble child transmission for the S550. Reactions: 1 person. I'm about to get a boost controller and bring it up to 8 psi. Otherwise E-85 will allow you to get to the levels you'd like on a stock engine. I am curious about installing a small turbo with 6-7 lbs of boost (or whatever value is safe). 7 mo ago. yea the greedy kit will bolt up no problems. How much boost can a stock Mazdaspeed 3 handle? The boost limits of the stock internals is completely dependant on the type of turbocharger, type of intercooling, tuning, and any other additional components, such as a ported head or different intake manifold. It must have high compression strength, high tensile or pulling strength, and be able to carry high shear forces by its mechanical design. Today. DigitalGT. How much does a TT Z32 weigh?2. Sign up for FREE! The Coupe's Lambda engine will initially use stock internals, which will limit its output. If you do it, carry extra baskets for the parts that will be dragging behind you … if you are determined to boost 20 lbs on stock internals,i would at least invest in cryo-treat.with studs and good gaskets i would think it will last quite a while.a turbo motor would last the longest at those levels,superchargers dont like that much boost.you can daily drive a turbo "out of boost" and increase life span also. In 20 seconds you can become part of the worlds largest and oldest community discussing General Motors, Chevrolet and GMC branded pickups, crossovers, and SUVs. Coyote Chaser said: I've been searching our forum for information on how far we can push the boost on the stock long block ecoboost motor, without damaging the OEM head bolts and head gasket and/or other components. im running 6-7psi daily right now making 162whp and 192wtq. Depending on the gas, your altitude, it will retard the timing because of short term knock retard (STNR). As KDM tuners is still pushing the limits. 24psi is pushing it. The stock compression is 10.0:1 and without using a head spacer or lowering your compression you can boost it to 350whp. Im wondering on the boost limits and power limits on a stock zetec 2.0 engine. As KDM tuners is still pushing the limits. “[To get 500 horsepower] we’d run about 8- or 9-pounds of boost and know that that stock engine is going to be just fine. Some stock engines are able to reliably make 100 or more horsepower when turbocharged on the stock internals. It’s pretty hard to look at the outside for a engine and say that “ah, yes, this looks well built inside”. How much boost should it handle? stock engine dead at over 500rwhp somewhere ,was fine b4 that wasnt it? Youll need injectors and a pump for sure. And increase of 5 pounds over stock is probably the limit you should go by. If you had a 2.0L engine, it could handle 10psi, but I think only one person on the forums got to that and something blew after a week or two. Most people boost around 10 PSI on a stock engine with less than 100K miles on it. Cylinder pressure does, which can be increased by higher drive pressures created by a bigger turbo, as well as timing. How much power can an alluminum block handle on Boost. Note the brief journey to 41.1psi of boost and peak RPM of 8,342 — from a stock 4.8L LR4 short-block, that has the same bearings and piston ring gaps as when it left the factory. The factory LS3 bottom end is able to handle a lot of power even with a power adder when tuned properly.” “ [To get 500 horsepower] we’d run about 8- or 9-pounds of boost and know that that stock engine is going to be just fine. boost maybe... 50 hp maybe....The pulley may cause the pcm to pull timing. 25-26 PSI "safe" limit. On our 529hp 6.0L, this meant we could generate as much as 1,058 hp at 14.5 psi of boost, if everything went according to the formula (and the engine survived). The issues Ford has addressed deal with bad hardware and shift response, not necessarily how much power can be run through it. How Much Psi Can A Stock 2rz Handle? Ford’s 302, 351 Windsor, and 351 Cleveland motors were created to meet the needs of intermediate and pony car lines. If I was to boost my Z I would keep a spare block and build it while having the stock engine running on a good tune and LOW boost in the car. In this video, you can see the realtime data from Roberts’ record-breaking 7.80 @ 168mph pass. But the stock block can't handle much more than 500HP and be expected to live, they crack down the middle. Postby kzoosho » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:11 am. 2019 Corvette Z06 2LZ A8 - Halltech CAI, AWE non-catted X-pipe, Mamo V2 ported TB 592rwhp, bone stock 566rwhp From buying research to owner support, join 1.5 MILLION GM Truck Enthusiasts every month who … Personal recommendation (having worked at procharger for years) Get a p1sc w/ 3core IC, run 8psi (it comes with a 3yr warranty for $49, and all the stuff for oil changes). Outside of i6 engines, the LS1 is very receptive to boost, along with Mistubishi's 4G63, and the 3800 Series II, among countless others. It seems like these engines take very well to boost as there are a number of 450rwhp+ VQ37 cars that have been running problem free for 50,000 miles or more. Answer (1 of 6): You know by finding other people who have used that engine to make much power. Anyways, I’d say 15-17psi is a good range to stick with if you want to keep longevity. The Ford Coyote engine can make 1,000 horsepower with a supercharger or a boost running pump of … If thats still not enough, you can send in your P1SC and have it converted to a D1SC. Yes, the rule of thumb is 40-50 psi of boost, but that's more because of the increased drive pressures associated with more boost. Yes you can, but reliability will go down somewhat quickly. If you double this atmospheric pressure (by supplying boost from a turbo or blower), you can theoretically double the power output. what is the top amount one would think a 2.0 dsm engine can handle on a stock bottom end, I kno the tech guide mentioned roughly 400 hp, but how much boost does that translate to. And since cylinder pressures determine when things "pop" not boost, it's a crap shoot no doubt. can you guys post your hp and boost levels with stock internals also while im talking about internals whats the stock compression on a … This is the limit that is already equal to a quick death. I agree 12 PSI in the safe amount of max boost you can run. 10# of boost is relatively MILD. I average 8mpg if that helps. I guess I just pointed it out for a point of interest. Dec 5, 2010. There are plenty of STIs out there making well over 400whp also, but the general concensus in this forum about how much WHP the STI block can handle is 400whp. Oct 20, 2010. In fact, a set of shot-peened, micro-polished, and balanced factory rods can hold up to more than 1,400 horsepower before bending. Only show this user. Can anybody tell me how much a stock 350 can handle? This is a discussion on How much power can an alluminum block handle on Boost within the Forced Induction forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; As the title says. How many pounds of boost can a stock engine handle? you can do more but it wont last long. You could be rated at 412WHP but if you never hit that while putzing around your engine might last as long as anyones. Now keep in mind that my dyno reads very low and I started at 250 ish whp so anything g around that you should be good. Most people boost around 10 PSI on a stock engine with less than 100K miles on it. Aug 12, 2007. can it be done i m sure it can will it last long i don t know, i know alot of guys are running intercooled prochargers up to 12 lbs intercooled my advice if you want to run it that high you better have you truck tunned or it won t last long, non intercooled i would say stay under 10 lbs of boost and … It is a little louder than the other 66cc engines but it feels like it has twice the power of the other engines I’ve had in the past. But first you need to get some good tires. The engine has now about 62000 miles. The rods stability goes at different levels of boost from different chargers. The mazdaspeed3 is supposed to be pushing 15.6 lbs max boost as stated in MotorTrend Nov. How much boost can a stock B18 handle? The LS3 [internals] will handle boost very, very well, as long as you don’t get greedy with it,” said Stenod Performance’s Joe Borschke. There are plenty of STIs out there making well over 400whp also, but the general concensus in this forum about how much WHP the STI block can handle is 400whp. the turbo is a different story. How much boost can my late 99 engine handle ? i was pushin 40psi with my powerstroke OBS turbo. good luck. sounds like you will be close to the limits of a stock internal motor. Sure, some engines survive higher horsepower just fine. Jul 31, 2007. Many engines fail because the connecting rods cannot handle the forces that develop in a high-boost, high-horsepower engine. 23psi all day. 1. fmu and safc would help, stand alone would be best. It was meant to show that it's one of the few N/A engines that when you turbo it can take around 400whp-500whp reliably. B18 internals can handle 300 hp when well tuned. Mar 26, 2017. I agree 12 PSI in the safe amount of max boost you can run. Do agree on a stock engine stay under 8 if you want longevity. A failed lifter after 100k miles on boost with max boost 14 is testament to Lsx motors. The OEM turbo can handle up to 21psi without issues but can damage the stock internals at that pressure. The stock 4.6L 4v 03-04 Cobra iron block motor can handle 700 rwhp. If you double this atmospheric pressure (by supplying boost from a turbo or blower), you can theoretically double the power output. Feb 11, 2012. 2. 07-03-2003, 03:30 PM. the answers are here.... the stock turbine on the rb25 can only take up to 0.9bar of boost... that something like 11-13psi of boost before the ceramic fins blow. When they hit 27psi the ignition could not keep up. “ [To get 500 horsepower] we’d run about 8- or 9-pounds of boost and know that that stock engine is going to be just fine. The LS3 [internals] will handle boost very, very well, as long as you don’t get greedy with it,” said Stenod Performance’s Joe Borschke. But I say it now and I will say it again the vq35DE is a dime a dozen engine, even if you blow it up a nice replacement can be had for around $800 at a junkyard so dont sweat it too much. 1-1.5 Lbs. Because of this, a bone stock engine might make 400rwhp at 15lbs of boost, and the same engine with the same power adder, but with good flowing H/C/I might make 500rwhp at 12 lbs of boost. You would be better off going with a 2.85 Hellraiser pulley and a tune.. in the turns your back on low boost. On how much the stock motor can handle, I've heard anywhere from 8-10 psi. #16. Depending on the gas, your altitude, it will retard the timing because of short term knock retard (STNR). The stock Vortech HO superchargers come pullied for 8-10# of boost which is considered normal/stock boost IMO!!! I drag race Fox body Mustangs. Exhaust: Forced Induction: 16: 12-05-2015 09:52 PM: How much extra hp/trq can the stock tires handle: sci3: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum: 7: 10-31-2015 02:36 PM: How much can stock … Reactions: 1 person. the shaft had about 1/2" of play in it after about 3 months of that kinda boost. VQ and Mitsubishi 6G72. Any more than that could damage gaskets, etc. Comp Ratio is 21:1 stock, can't fit a whole bunch of extra in there boost wise, until you drop, as Ed said, 18:1, with an intercooler. It was meant to show that it's one of the few N/A engines that when you turbo it can take around 400whp-500whp reliably. I have a 2013 1le with a zl1 blower and want to change pulleys , right now I have 9lbs of boost and want to go higher on boost with a pulley change . If you make similar mods/upgrades to the 350, it will make more power than the 2.2L, usually at least twice as much. And you can make similar cylinder pressures at the same boost. Piping, intercooler, exhaust, injectors, feul pump; as well as who knows how much boost a stock MAF can handle. But mainly I just want to know the max boost level on stock internals approximately. A bone stock motor will produce around 190-215 FWHP depending on the miles and condition. I've seen 14, but I wouldn't try it. i was woundering how boost and hp can a stock bottom end of a 2jzgte motor take. :thumbsup: Peter. stock engine internals r very strong without bigger injectors u should be fine with the motor. Our Ford Small Block Crate Engines are an homage to 1969, a year of aggressive modernization at Ford. 0 Coyote Handle? Images can have a big impact on loading times, especially when you upload a huge image to display it really small – for example, a 2500×1500 pixels image displayed at 250×150 pixels size – as the entire image still has to be loaded. Some links to someone besides JWT and Stillen for performance upgrades?5. Lesser known are Toyota AR/AZ and 3S/S series engines. You'll need to spend $2500-$3500 in parts to get 225-250 rwhp from a tutu. In both setups, its possible get more boost from your … Intercooler or even methanol Inj. Over all just sharing info about the engine. 7spd DCT - I'm not sure on this one. b16a ferio. Car: 90 Nissan 2+0 300zx TT, 13 ford taurus SHO (TT AWD) ive got a massive hks turbo (able 2 boost up2 1000bhp so ive bin told, it is big) a set of 740cc injectors, chipped ecu. I've read 25 lb., but the author did not provide the source of the published specifications. didnt last long tho. when you get the turbo kit i recommend a s-afc with it so you can re-do the air\fuel mixture to compensate for the added air commin in. Feb 25, 2009. shimi-k20a2 said: blue hatch amazing car&job mate ! Nov 21, 2011. For carbureted engines with compression ratios of 9:1 or less and boost levels in the 8-14 psi range, pump gasoline works very well. However, the 2rz bottom end is good to 18psi safely, while the 3rz bottom end is only good to 14-15psi. “[To get 500 horsepower] we’d run about 8- or 9-pounds of boost and know that that stock engine is going to be just fine. The MTX can handle boost, but only about 8psi like I said above. However, I have never seen an scientific data to support any of it, so take it all with a grain of salt.
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