MD: The Heartbreakers worked with a unique mix of producers over the years. It's really nothing to have a record deal now, it doesn't mean anything. Warren himself had been a Tom Petty fan since he was eleven, when he heard Breakdown on WBCN in Boston. If you're in it for the journey, if what you're making isn't selling, I don't know if that means that you are doing anything wrong; it just means that at this moment in time, your best work, the music that you most want to make, isn't being received by the widest possible audience. That happens when the pain becomes too much and you live in a world, in a culture, where people have reached in the direction of heroin to stop the pain. Otherwise, I listened to what I already had.. Im not really there emotionally, he says. 82.4 KB Views: 214. Lynchs portion of the tour was slated to kick off April 23 in Boulder, Colorado, so he had plenty of time to prepare. It made a big difference for me, and I believe my participation made a huge difference for them., Lynch has stayed on good terms with Heartbreakers keyboardist Benmont Tench during the past 30 years, and the drummer is very open to the idea of one day playing with all the surviving members of the group in some capacity. He didnt ever get a trampoline out and do a backflip. Stan: Oh, yeah. And our bass player Crawdaddy [Lance Morrison] said, You should play that song together in the show. So it helps you to step back and maintain that perspective. Theyre all playing but stop because this kid ran into the room with this Beatles magazine. A couple things. His feel somehow combines the loose gallop of great classic rock'n'roll with the unrelenting tension of barely contained energy. I've always been that guy, you know like the Roadrunner cartoon, like "What if I go ahead and blow this up, what'll happen?" 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That 20 minutes turned into two days and eight hours. Margo Price Opens Up Like Never Before: It Feels Freeing First off, they won't remember, so you've wasted time. I didnt even speak to him at the Hall of Fame, says Lynch. Ive seen enough that I know that I dont need to see much more Bigger isnt better.. But this is against everything I stand for, and I can't let you die in front of me.". It's funny, you know, working in a band is a chop; it's just another chop. Show Reviews. Stan Lynch joined Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers in 1974 when Pettys piano player Benmont Tench recruited him. Double Platinum Supporting Member. Ask Amy: Im still hurt by what my daughters did after their sisters death, Carolyn Hax: Embarrassing son is back home after losing his job, Carolyn Hax: Teen turns against mom after his dads death. . I'm not on Mount Rushmore and I don't think I should be! Earlier this year, Stan Lynch reunited with his former bandmate, Mike Campbell, when Campbell asked him to join him on the road with the Dirty Knobs. Theres also the matter of last years Peter Bogdanovichdirected Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers documentary Runnin Down A Dream. Just think of Breakdowns slinky pulse, the graceful fills that usher in the heavenly chorus in Here Comes My Girl, or the swamp-funk groove of his 1993 Heartbreakers swan song Mary Janes Last Dance.. I wont get into all that, but we were young and stupid and full of too much testosterone. And it hasn't taken me very seriously. Years later, Petty, fascinated by the Dusty Springfield book Zanes wrote, invited him to dinner and rekindled their friendship. I found out hes turned out to be quite a gentleman and a real brother to me., It also turned out they needed a lot less time than they anticipated to lock back in musically. And in five minutes or so, Tom Petty comes out. We have a freedom to walk down the street and meet people. It was the greatest thrill of my life, Zanes said. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. It'd be so frightening if your life really hung on that balance, on that fulcrumlike if I was actually sitting here going, "God, the demographic of people that buy records is, uhhh, 18 to 24! There was a lot of miscommunication and a lot of immature shit going down. Guitar Saved Me!: Jeff Beck Looks Back in Never-Before-Heard Interview Audio Thats how, in a very roundabout way, Warren Zanes, a deputy professor at New York University, came to write Petty: The Biography, a new book about one of rocks most enigmatic figures, and his band, the Heartbreakers. Stan Lynch's income source is mostly from being a successful . I never knew how it got there, but it sure wasnt left over from the night before. This is a great joke I heard somebody say to me: it was somebody who's very successful who was producing records for somebody who was lesser knowna record that was probably never gonna sell, but it was a cool record. The Heartbreakers are hardly a case study in intolerance. The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. I can't worry about that - it would be so pathetic! So I think nowadays it's so much by rote, your first album can sell a million records, and it's no big deal - they'll still drop you [laughs]. Man, we used to have a joke in the first band I was in, which was: lower your goals and succeed! Id need you to play a leg of the tour. I keep going back to this band and I cant help but feel like the reason the Heartbreakers wont die, cant die, is because Pettys family was so dysfunctional. Moral dilemmas, relationships, parenting and more. He described us as not his main gig. Hell, it certainly hurts when you spend a year and the record isn't noticed. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. I told my editor about Pettys heroin addiction in the 90s. Now, I have friends that are in their 20's and 30's, and they've already been to business school and they've been to music college andyou can actually select rock star and supermodel on your job application [laughter]. Thats when it fell apart with Stan., The tensions between Lynch and Petty had been building ever since the late 1980s when Petty recorded with the Traveling Wilburys and followed that up with his first solo album. It's like a pro sports athlete. To that end, Stan opens up the treasure trove, eager to share his secrets for maintaining vitality and integrity in a business that can easily rob the unsuspecting of both. The coolest thing about this is that I get to put a bookend on a really, really long book of life, he says. I just couldnt. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. They Took a Third Date to Costa Rica. I dont know what it would mean to them since they have a lot more miles than I do, but it would be a joy for me., Campbell says hes not ready for something like that. So that was the perspective I had immediately. I learn from them.. Despite those undercurrents or perhaps partly because of them, the partnership often served as a perfect vehicle for Lynch's talents. Stan Lynch page 1.jpg. Oh yeah, that one never changed. It works really well with him. I mean, some guys bat .310 one year and then the next year they bat .145. But I havent seen him again since then.. ), Drummer Talk 271 Agents and Managers 301, Recycled Percussion to perform in Super Bowl Pre-Show, Semisonic Drummer Slips on Ice, Breaks Hand. It's inevitable that some shit is gonna fly. You first encounter Petty as a fan and then, youre in this rock band, the Del Fuegos, and opening up for these guys. A totally different sound, yet completely him., Zanes enrolled in Loyola and spent the next twelve years in universities, eventually getting a Ph.D. from Rochester University in Cultural Studies. But then, when he left his marriage and moved into a house, by himself, things slowed just long enough that all of that past came right as hes coming into the pain of not being able to control the well-being of his kids and not being able to control a dialogue with his ex-wife. Lynchs current shows with Campbell will end in June. And that's what it's supposed to do, so she did her job. Stan said no to the interview . It really came out very intense, at times remorseful, at times angry but he helped the book immeasurably. It's very incredible. Video unavailable And yelling and protesting. And I want to contribute whatever they'll let me contribute, and I want to learn what they'll let me learn. He then joined Eagles for 'Hell Freezes Over' and went on tour with. Mike is a pivotal player in a previous life of mine. Youll know it when you know it. Sure enough, we went back to the studio and we got two tracks that night. Stan said no to the interview between three and four times. So of course he's gonna stick his head up from behind the car with a court jester's hat on and missing teeth. You were open to doing an authorized version, right? The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. That's when you've hit the real essence of collaboration, where you know you've found your partner. There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. In 1970 or 1969 when I told my father I was gonna become a professional musician, I may as well have told him I was gonna wear a tutu and dance with bears in the circus [laughs]. I didnt talk to the Bogdanovich people, Lynch says. His aunt hounds him for autographs at funerals. And theres plenty more as Zanes, granted full access, reports on the creation of not just Pettys biggest records, Damn the Torpedoes, and Full Moon Fever, but his less appreciated gems, including 1999s Echo. Zanes is more than a fan: In 1987, his band, the Del Fuegos, opened gigs for their hero. Thats kind of the Heartbreakers code. Last week, Stan Lynch was interviewed atthe Matheson Museum in Gainesville, Florida. He ended up recording harmonies on the bands Warner Brothers dbut album, and he brought the Del Fuegos with him on tour. And with that, there can be the ultimate cost. When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or "excommunicated," to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. Warren became vice-president of educational programs for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. At 45, Stan Lynch appears to be comfortably making the transition from archetypal wild rock drummer to trusted elder statesman - all the while retaining the same enthusiasm that made him stand out as a drummer, showing a keen interest in helping young artists through the struggles of building a career. The drummer looked back and opened up about his time with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers during a recent appearance. And he did it very respectfully. Bio; Contact. Are you up for it?, Lynchs first instinct was to decline the offer. And that's why I smile, usually, 'cause I realize I was given the.the troll said you can pass! 6,156. The other night I looked down during that song and there was a woman in the front just sobbing, says Campbell. The Del Fuegos were originally an Oberlin band that Dan Zanes, Warrens older brother, started with some college friends; Warren joined after Andover. It still blows my mind that that shit that I remember cutting like it was last week is still somehowviewed asREAL! In what ways do you think that the business is easier, and in what ways do you think it's harder for artists starting out now than it was when you started?Well it's easier because it's an accepted form of livelihood. How do you think you can keep that going?Discipline. He hopes hell get another chance to play with Campbell in the future, but he says hes ready for whatever happens. And when it happens, its certainly a big deal. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. And he hasnt ever spoken about this before.The first thing he said to me on the subject is I am very concerned that talking about this is putting a bad example out there for young people. "We have the same musical pulse we always had," says Campbell of hitting the road with his old Tom Petty bandmate after decades of estrangement. I'm interested in rock music, literature, cinema, and doing research in Cultural Studies. Sojust pick a time. From Bruce Springsteen to Graham Parker to Elvis Costello. Stan Lynch is really an overlooked player in rock. But it got untenable. For now, though, this feature on one of rocks most tasteful timekeepersa true player of the songwill do, for theres plenty to discuss with Lynch. Lynchs run ends after a June 26 show in Aspen, Colorado. It was an exhilarating ride, but there were frequent creative and personal tensions between Petty and the outspoken drummer that eventually led to Lynch's departure from the band after 19 years. All rights reserved. If I look up and see Mike Campbells butt in front of my drum kit, its kind of like Im home., Opening night in Boulder was heavy on material from the two Dirty Knobs albums, but they also dipped into the Heartbreakers catalog with songs like Refugee, Runnin Down a Dream, Southern Accents, and You Wreck Me. As the days went by, they started sprinkling in additional oldies like Listen to Her Heart, When the Time Comes, and Casa Dega., Im still learning to be a singer, says Campbell. Right now, Campbell and the Dirty Knobs are on a brief break before returning to the road in late May for another long string of shows that includes stints opening for Chris Stapleton and the Who at arenas and even a few stadiums. MD: What was your state of mind when you finally got the call that you were fired from the band? I could have moved forward without him. Keith Moon, his drums sound like he's pushing washing machines over the hill! [laughter] I mean, I know that. It was still like.this is incredible, I don't want to die here, this is great! In a recent interview, Lynch recalled some of his most memorable experiences, including his 2002 . We have estimated Stan Lynch's net worth, money, salary, income, and assets. Print Profile Email Profile View Stanford-only Profile Tab Menu . A fun chat with my old friend and original drummer with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, the great Stan Lynch. In retrospect, I look back at that scene, in that office, and I think that maybe its the happiest Ive seen Tom Petty by looking at his face. What would I start doing, polling people in high school? But I don't know if you've jumped through enough hoops and had enough discipline to make a record worth listening to unless you are Jimi Hendrix. And I said "Hey man, it must be fun working with so-and-so", and he goes, "Yeah, thank God I sold a shitload of records 'cause now I can hang around and make records till the money runs out!" This article was published more than7 years ago. Where the world's greatest drummer meet. Jimmy Iovine is known to have obsessed over the drum sound in Pettys 1979 album Damn the Torpedos, which Iovine produced, and Lynch became the object of his frustration. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, Stan. Drummer Talk 272 State of the Union (So What IS Up? Because my nature was to be there 20 minutes early with fuckin' bells on! And what it basically translated to was, "Fuckin' have some fun with this, wouldya?". I dont know how thats going to feel. He didnt want it to be authorized because he felt like authorized meant bull-, says Warren Zanes, whose Petty: The Biography arrives next month. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. And I'm going [excitedly], "We're making 300 a week!" Is it better to take time off, or work through it until it comes back, or?Call a friend. If you listen to the old records, Stan and I are pushing, were locked, and lot of times were driving the songs. Then I heard him at a gig talking to a guy in another band. Stan Lynch: Drumming in the Music BizInsights on how to stay sane in a crazy business. That was probably cut more around the time of Greatest Hits in 1993, but it fits in. You tell the person that you love, if you love them - or if you need them, maybe you have a symbiotic relationship where if they die, you die, career-wise - you tell them, "Look man, I know right from wrong, and this what you're doing is wrong. He basically has no connection to that family back in Florida. Percussion group Recycled Percussion has a unique, In the early hours of Friday, January 13, Dave had his, LA Weekly just released an article detailing Gadd and, 2 sold-out Twin Cities shows have been called off, Jazz and fusion drummer Alphonse Mouzon died on Sunday. The list goes on, but this'll get you started! Hes a rock and roller. I havent been a drummer since I was in my thirties. So - that's okay! It has a special vibe when its just the two of you. And so we started closing the show with it. Call somebody you respect. (For a detailed account of this saga, check out Warren Zanes definitive book Petty: The Biography. Otherwise it can becomeit's just fetishism, it's just "This is my personal fantasy"of what everyone will love. We grew up loving Tom Petty more than his contemporaries. Saying, These are the things that feel incredibly good, that cant be duplicated. During his tenure as a Heartbreaker, Lynch became intimately familiar with both the ups and the downs of working in a rock band. Now theres a book in itself.. The other guys might have had a little more expectation, so there was more disappointment for them. I watched really depressing people get more depressed. And whatever I was playing in didnt even feel like a band. Merrill Lynch CEO Stan O'Neal, shown in a 2003 file photo, is a numbers person in what is, at its heart, a people business. And - no, I shouldn't! Pettys got a very strong voice, of course, but I needed the foil. We want to hear it. Because every night I went out and watched Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. I'm not sayingI'm certainly not bulletproof. When a Tom Petty record came out, it was an event. Now which one is it? Petty was our guy. Occupation. At one point, he said, Warren, Im going to have to answer questions about this for the rest of my life. And I said, I know.. But other people will drag things out of you and it's beautiful if you let it happen. And at the end of 20 minutes, if you tell me to leave, I will leave. We got together and played at that and talked and were friendly, Petty said in 2007. Yeah, you tank. If you're actually really good, and they don't get it, you can actually believe that you're wrong and they're right. And he said, This is really good. He sounded just like Tom Petty when he said it. I first met you around 1978, and the thing that's really struck me is that basically you've remained the same person all that time. All you need is a CD burner and $300 and you too can have your record on the Internet. It became like, "Well that's pretty stupid that he's not acknowledging this." LikeEverclear - Art Alexakis is talented! Books: * Bill the Boy Wonder: The Secret Co-Creator of Batman (nonfiction picture book); illustrated by Ty Templeton . A couple of the guys I worked with always thought when we were kids that rock stars were better than other people. Confirmed guests include Jim Keltner, JR Robinson, Rick Marotta, Stan Lynch, Gregg Bissonette, Lenny Castro, Luis Conte, David Garfield, Rich Mangicaro, Ross Garfield (aka Drum Doctor), Harry McCarthy . I think life is different at that altitude. Dan Baird and Stan Lynch Team Up for New LP: Interview Matt Wardlaw Published: July 16, 2020 The Chefs Don't let the name of the new project by ex- Georgia Satellites frontman Dan Baird and. Great rock'n'roll is not usually made by democracy - that's the truth. Then Covid Trapped Them There. I figured, "Well I'm off the road, my job's done, whoopeeee!" Youre a guy who wants to write songs now. When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or excommunicated, to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as a producer-songwriter and rarely looked back. If I had a record label, I'd sign him. He had signed with Zildjian by the time of this MD interview, but he used Paiste 2002s on Damn The Torpedoes. I just didn't know any better, I didn't know it turned into a corporate frenzy and we were being sponsored by Levi's! When he released that safety valve out. It's great when you actually find somebody that doesn't hear music the way you do and you start to love them for it. I have a really good life, he says. Ive thought about having different singers up there doing the songs, but why? I just couldnt look at it. Go to AA meetings, whatever it takes! And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. So it was no small surprise in late 2021 when Lynch picked up his phone one day and heard Campbells voice on the other end. I knew that there was the capacity within that group to push boundaries, he says. And its a new life. But it's a wonderful thing to know that I'm on a journey now. It was like, "Well that'sinteresting Stan, what are you gonna do to support yourself?" And I cant tell you what you can and cant write., Oct. 2017: Tom Petty on life support after cardiac arrest, according to reports, The result is a penetrating profile in which Petty opens up for the first time about his heroin addiction, something he had sliced out of Peter Bogdanovichs four-hour documentary, 2007s Runnin Down a Dream. Zanes also coaxed Stan Lynch, the ex-drummer of Pettys longtime backing band, The Heartbreakers, to talk unflinchingly about his falling-out with Petty. And I couldnt wait for it to end, he said, sipping his coffee. Petty gave him complete editorial freedom, and told him that he could interview whomever he liked, because thats how Tom Petty does things. Pettys only condition was that he get to read the completed manuscript and be given the opportunity to respond to anything he felt needed it. Flash forward to the 1980s. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time But for many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker's greatest work. The 50 Worst Decisions in Music History I mean, for me it's as pathetic as it sounds, and it's true: this is my social life, what I do for a living. I would sayyou have a lot of energy, young man! Stan Lynch had a different take on the situation. Original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch recently joined an interview with Rolling Stone. [laughter] And the trick is to stay out of your own way, and to stay out of everybody else's way. 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