The first prototypes were built in 1965 at the Krauss-Maffei factory. The design featured quite a great number of Leopard-1 original parts parts and shared the general hull and turret with standard production Leopard-1s produced by the company. This, of course, requires knowledge about the vehicles you may face - so be sure to use the game's X-Ray view in the hangar and analyse your potential foes for their weak spots! In 1964, the program was suspended and instead the French Army opted for a missile with a longer range, able to be mounted on the AMX-30. Rechercher. Connexion Contactez-nous. yea right, way to go to pamper idiotic german players 1 1 1 Male Greece 16367 The Lucky Few -TLF- Report post Posted April 1, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 12:50, DeuZerre said: In the latter case the vehicle must be supported by removable props, which are carried on the vehicle, and the bulldozer blade must be lowered on the ground. [64], In the late 1980s, a consortium of West German companies developed the Super AMX-30 modernization package for AMX-30B. The first five tanks were issued to the 501st Rgiment de Chars de Combat (Tank Regiment) in August of that year. [42][43] HEAT warheads suffer when spin stabilized, a product of rifled barrels,[44] causing the French to develop the Obus G,[34] (Gresse). A single prototype was made and were publicly unveiled and tested in Saudi Arabia. This topic is locked; 12 replies to this topic Poll: Read before voting (41 members have cast votes) Which is better for you? The Porsche Prototype II was well received, though changes were made to the design such as a new cast turret, hull design change, and relocating the radiators. Cette vido raconte l'histoire de son developpement ainsi que son. There were two sources of the AMX-30B2 tanks. [28] The French government decided that it could not procure a new tank until 1965,[30] while the Germans refused to adopt the Franco-German 105-millimeter (4.1in) tank gun, in lieu of the British Royal Ordnance L7, of which they had already ordered 1,500 in the autumn of 1962,[27][31] their plan having failed for Rheinmetall to produce in Germany a common type of munition of sufficient quality. Take into consideration the moderate vehicle height, which allows you to go turret down in certain locations, allowing you to safely use your commander's binoculars to locate targets. [71], The AMX-30 has a number of different variations, including a number of other armoured vehicles based on the same chassis. Therefore the Leopard's armour design was only meant to withstand 20 mm calibres from the front. Military show,56 tons & 64 tons,3 men & 4 men,gun 120 mmm explosive shellmachine gun 12.7, machine gun 7.62 & machine gun 7.62 [33] Originally, the first two prototypes were powered by a 720 horsepower (540kW) spark ignition engine, named the SOFAM 12 GSds. The tank commander also made use of a 7.62-millimeter (0.300in) anti-aircraft machine gun on the turret roof. [23] German defence minister Franz Josef Strauss began to oppose the common tank project. So of these two ideologies, which was more effective? It has identical stats to the AMX-30 and OF-40 which are 7.7, though. Turkey bought and upgraded 170 Leopard 1A1 tanks and upgraded all to Leopard 1T 'Volkan'. We will continue to test and monitor changes to the AMX 30B, the Leopard 1 and the STB-1 and we will provide more details later. Prototype developed from 1960 through 1961 as a medium tank for the Bundeswehr, with a total of 26 prototypes manufactured. the Leopard C2 is now obsolete and the Canadian government has opted to use the Leopard 2. The bridge has a width of 3.1 meters (3.4yd), but can be increased to 3.95 meters (4.32yd) through the use of appliqu panels. The PT-76-57 is armed with a stabilizer, an autoloader and a laser rangefinder. Main armament: 125 mm 2A46M/2A46M-5 smoothbore gun: 1 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A3 L/52 rifled gun: Engine: # LIBRONS . [113] The first units to be outfitted with the new tank were the 501st and 503rd tank regiments, followed by the 6th and 12th Cuirassier Regiments. Commander . [5] Given that the ARL 44 had been considered only a stop-gap vehicle for the French Army's armoured forces since inception, work on a new tank had begun as early as March 1945. Both Spain and Venezuela later began extensive modernization programs to extend the life of their vehicles and to bring their tanks up to more modern standards. [46] The main gun was coupled with a 380-millimeter (15in) recoil brake, which had a maximum extension of 400 millimeters (16in), and could depress to 8 degrees or elevate to 20 degrees. [15] This projectile was composed of two major parts, including the outer shell and a suspended inner shell, separated by ball bearings. The MG3A1 is a General Purpose Machine Gun with a low calibre, being unable to penetrate most opponents, although its high rate of fire and the manoeuvrability of the roof-mounted MG can be used to eliminate exposed crew members quickly, especially useful against vehicles such as the UDES 33, or damage aircraft or the lighter utility helicopters sometimes encountered in higher-BR battles, such as the AH-1G. The production version of the AMX-30B weighed 36 metric tons (40 short tons), and sacrificed protection for increased mobility. For some reason Ive found that playing the French version of the Leo is just so much more enjoyable. However! The Leopard 1 is better armored, more reliable (reliability issues were a major problem of the AMX-30 before the AMX-30B2 upgrade was introduced), is more mobile and has been upgraded more. [24] Oscillating turrets also had a large ballistic weakness in the area of the skirt and turret ring. [58] In June 1979, the French Army decided to both build new and modernize existing AMX-30s with an improved fire control system and a new transmission, and designated them AMX-30B2s. Italian Leopard 1 MBTs were retired from service by 2008, and are replaced with the native Italian C1-Ariele tank. The AMX-30E (E stands for Espaa, Spanish for Spain) is a Spanish main battle tank based on France's AMX-30.Although originally the Spanish government sought to procure the German Leopard 1, the AMX-30 was ultimately awarded the contract due to its lower price and the ability to manufacture it in Spain. [131] Although Saudi Arabia planned to procure more M1 tanks, it was unable to do so for financial reasons and the AMX-30 has still not been retired. The AMX-30D has a maximum on-road velocity of 60 kilometers per hour (37mph) and a maximum road range of 500 kilometers (310mi). The Leopard I is powered by a MTU MB 838 CaM-500 engine, which produces a total of 830 hp (610 kW) at around 2,200-2,300 RPM. As it combined a good accuracy with a penetration that was independent of range, it has been considered an "ideal round" for its day[34] The AMX-30 was also designed to fire the OE F1 Mle.60 high explosive projectile, the SCC F1 training warhead and the OFUM PH-105 F1 smoke round. [99] The second missile system is the AMX-30R (Roland) surface-to-air missile launching system, which began development in 1974. [92] Bridgelayer development began as early as 1963, although it was not until June 1967 that development began on a prototype. Instead of a turret, the AMX-30D is fitted with a superstructure, and weighs 36 metric tons (40 short tons), although with the extra power pack it can weigh up to 40 metric tons (44 short tons). The lack of focus on the armour was because of the belief that no matter how much armour a tank can have, it will eventually fall obsolete to the advent of newer anti-tank weapons such as the HEAT rounds, which was becoming stronger and stronger by the years. Leopard 1 vs T-72 | Comparison tanks specifications Compare tanks Leopard 1 T-72 Compare Share Leopard 1 and T-72 Specifications Caliber 0 25 50 75 100 125 Leopard 1 T-72 Caliber [mm] More Dimensions Leopard 1 T-72 Length Width Height 0 2 4 6 8 10 Images Leopard 1 AMX-30 with stock HEAT and coax 20mm and nerfed movility is superior and the Italians have the same gun and ammunition in 7.3 but germany op reeeeeeeeeee. [108] By the end of production, France had accepted 1,355 AMX-30s into service,[106] including 166 brand-new AMX-30B2s. [140], In 2015, Saudi Arabia's AMX-30s and M1 Abrams tanks deployed along the border with Yemen. In 1970 the prototypes were shown to journalists and participated in a military parade. [49] The engine's drive is taken through a Gravina G.H.B.200C twin-plate centrifugal clutch. In 1963, the Porsche prototype was selected as the winner in 1963, though even before this decision the vehicle already has priority in being built in greater number than the others. Hitting the ammo rack of your opponent is often the fastest way to take out an enemy vehicle, keep in mind though there is a small chance the ammo will not blow up (Best ammo types to ammo rack: HEAT-FS > HESH > APDS). Fortunately, the OFL 120 F1 round can punch straight through the hull. In 1970 the prototypes were shown to journalists and participated in a military . The upgrades to the power packs were new MTU MB833 Ka501 diesel engine with 850 hp, ZF LSG-3000 automatic transmission, new engine cooling system, and increased fuel capacity up to 1,028 liters. It was preceded by two post-war French medium tank designs. A raid by Gazelle helicopters paved the way for an attack by the 4e Rgiment de Dragons. Between 1979 and 1981, Saudi Arabia also received 52 AMX-30SAs and later 50 AMX-30C1 Shanine-2s delivered in two batches, between 1980 and 1989. The spectacular Char de Chastel 3D style for the VIII AltProto AMX 30 is inspired by the legend of the Beast of Gvaudan. [54], During the production run, many improvements were implemented. Hitting exterior parts of a tank like spaced armour, the suspension, tracks etc. [6] The French government's specifications for the new tank were strongly influenced by both the Panther tank and the heavier Tiger I; specifically, the French Army was looking for a tank with the protection of the former and the firepower of the latter. This heavy manufacturing factory was built during World War I to produce artillery shells, although by 1952 the factory had begun producing armoured fighting vehicles. First, 166 AMX-30B2 tanks were built from scratch starting from 1981. The AMX-30 and the Leopard 1 on the other hand seem to follow a different idea of being light and mobile to avoid being hit. [64], In the nineties, a reactive armour package, named BRENUS or Brennus,[65] was developed for the AMX-30B2, but was issued only to two tank regiments, which in peacetime were combined into the 1er/ 2e Chasseurs, that were part of France's rapid reaction force;[59][66] the other two regiments using the AMX-30, the 2e/5e Dragons,[67] only had their tanks adapted for a possible relatively quick upgrade, in case of an emergency. Beberapa simulator tank telah dimiliki TNI AD diantaranya adalah Leopard, Scorpion dan Stormer. Although ultimately none were ordered for France, in 1975 Saudi Arabia ordered an improved version (53 units,) denominated the AMX-30SA (first known as the AMX-30 DCA, for "dfense contre avion". Mobility was provided by the 720 horsepower (540kW) HS-110 diesel engine, although the troublesome transmission adversely affected the tank's performance. The project for the Leopard started as far back as 1956 as an attempt to replace the American M47 and M48 Patton tanks in service at the time as they were becoming outdated to newer anti-tank technology. The warhead, containing 780gram hexolite,[45] could penetrate up to 400 millimeters (16in) of steel armour and was effective against tanks at up to 3,000 meters (3,300yd). [17], Comparative trials were nevertheless held at Mailly-le-Camp, Meppen, Bourges and Satory[17] between five French and five German prototypes between August and October 1963, under Italian, Dutch, Belgian and American supervision. [26] Wood mock-ups were completed in 1959, while the first two prototypes were finished by 1961 (completed by Team A). The first few Leopards were designated Leopard 1A1 and continued all the way to Leopard 1A6 as it incorporates new technology such as sights, gun, radios, armour, or even small upgrades or redesigns on some parts. Sometimes moving is not an option, but remember, directly behind your hull front sits a large portion of your ammunition, at least if you're fully loaded. The Leopard I is a rank V German medium tank with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB/RB/SB). In contrast to the AMX-50, the AMX-30 was issued a conventional turret, because it was found that it was more difficult to seal oscillating turrets from radioactive dust and against water when the tank was submerged. I know there wasnt a full conflict to really show which worked better but I was hoping for information on the effectiveness of the opposing systems. Author: "Leopard 2 A5 der Bundeswehr" by Bundeswehr-Fotos - originally posted to Flickr as Leopard 2 A5. [18][19] French and German engineers, during a conference in Bonn on 12 February 1957, defined the requirements for the future tank. [35] Beginning in 1966, ten AMX-30s were assembled per month, and the first five were issued in August 1966 to the 501st Rgiment de Chars de Combat. Leopard (16 votes [39.02%]) World of Tanks, WoT, 1.12 patchNEW VIDEO ON THE 2nd CHANNEL!!! Other than the different variants, the Leopard 1 was also extensively modified or made into derivatives in roles such as anti-aircraft guns, armour recovery vehicles, bridge layers, and such. Main battle tank of the Federal Republic of Germany. However, this attempt to create a unified European tank was unsuccessful. The remaining Leopard 1s are in storage, replaced by the Leopard 2. This MBT is armed with the British L7A3 105 mm rifled gun. Spain also procured 10 AMX-30Ds and 18 AMX-30Rs. The Leopard I mounts one coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun and one pintle-mounted 7.62 mm machine gun. Ecuador purchased all 60 of their Leopard tanks from Chile. VIII A.P. The prototypes were tested up to 1963. Answer (1 of 13): Sustain hit? [132], Venezuela originally placed an order for 142 tanks in 1972, although this was later reduced to 82 and four AMX-30Ds. These first vehicles had a very rounded turret, in a deliberate imitation of the Soviet T-54, and Sofam petrol engines. [110] The French Army also accepted a large number of variants, including 195 self-propelled howitzers, 44 AMX-30 Pluton tactical nuclear missile launchers, 183 AMX-30Rs, 134 AMX-30Ds and 48 engineer vehicles (AMX-30EBG). [120] Spain ordered 19 tanks in 1970, and later agreed to manufacture another 180 tanks in Spain. 3.61 m. 3.75 m. Height: 2.45 m. 3.0 m. Ariete Leopard 2 Length Width Height 0 2 4 6 8 10. The vehicle had maneuverability, engine power, and effective anti-tank engagement distance superior to all other vehicles except the Leopard 1. Total production of the AMX-30 and variants totaled 3,571 units. Like all high-explosive shells, the fuse is very sensitive and can be set-off by most objects e.g. Maquette monter et peindre du char AMX 30/105 de la marque Heller. Its not like the AMX-30 faces dramatically different opponents, so the M48A2C vs M48A1 justification doesn't work either. The tank was finally designated the Leopard 1, with the prototype stage labelled as the Leopard 1A0. Kit no. The first two prototypes of the STB-1 were manufactured in September 1969 for trials. You see both of the M60 and Leopard I are made from the era that gave rather low priority to tank protection. Peso Tiempo Calidad Subido; 11.83 MB : 8:37 min: [115], France eventually also failed to obtain orders from the remaining two FINABEL nations, Belgium and the Netherlands: the Dutch did not even test the type and the Belgians ordered the Leopard when France refused to allow partial component production of the AMX-30 in Belgium, fearing it would increase the unit cost. The Leopard 1 saw service in the armies of more than 10 countries. Leopard 1 er en mellemtung kampvogn, produceret i Vesttyskland fra 1965 . [28] The trials indicated that the German type, on 1 October also getting its own name Leopard, had a better mobility and acceleration. Das knnt ihr hier tun: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick\u0026hosted_button_id=WHWPUGS6TJXQGVielen DANK!! [57] The project was to result in a AMX 30 Valoris ("upgraded AMX-30"). The vehicle turned out to have maneuverability, engine power, and effective anti-tank engagement distance superior to all other vehicles except the Leopard 1. The Roland's exploration radar has a detection range of 16 kilometers (9.9mi). Salut tous les amis,on revient nos origines sur World of Tanks aprs quasiment 2 ans sans aucune vido sur ce jeu. France had AMX, SLD Lorraine, and SOMUA with FCM Renault working on the project, while Germany had Porsche, Rheinmetall with Henschel, and Borgward working on the project. The main strengths of the Leopard I are its high mobility and the above-average rate of fire of the main cannon. [28][29] The French type had received a separate national designation: AMX 30. [117] In the mid-1980s, Venezuela adopted a modernization plan for its deprecated AMX-30s, opting to replace the original engine with a new Continental AVDS-1790-5A diesel engine, producing 908 horsepower (677kW) and exchanging the existing transmission with an Allison CD-850-6A. It was introduced in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel" . [117] Throughout the 1960s, Spain had considered both the AMX-30 and the Leopard 1 to complement their existing fleet of M47 and M48 Patton tanks. [15], Less costly and easier to maintain, the AMX-30 has been preferred over the Leopard 1 by less affluent or developed nations. This mysterious monster terrorized the French county of Gvaudan in the 18th century and was hunted down by the legendary huntsman Jean Chastel. The AMX-30 was first issued in August 1966, with the first 5 units being assigned to 501 e Rgiment de Chars de Combat (Combat Tank Regiment). Although the three nations agreed to a series of specific characteristics that the new tank should have, and both France and Germany began work on distinctive prototypes with the intent of testing them and combining the best of both, the program failed as Germany decided not to adopt the new French 105-millimetre (4.1in) tank gun and France declared that it would postpone production until 1965. In combination with a good gun depression of -9 (meaning, you can lower the gun quite extensively . [63] From 1998, the French army started to replace the engines of its remaining AMX-30 tanks and variants with 500 Renault Mack E9 750hp engines. The AMX 30 B is a French tier 10 medium tank. The Leopard 1 is also very effective at sniping, due to its relatively small profile and speed, and high-magnification optics and HEAT-FS being unaffected by range (in terms of penetration), allowing it to get to a comfortable sniping position and relocate quickly. The first, the ARL 44, was an interim tank. Leopard 2. [112], In the late 1990s, the French Army began to accept the new Leclerc main battle tank to replace the antiquated AMX-30. [12] The production version of the tank had a combat weight of 36 metric tons (40 short tons). [52] The tank could ford 1.3-meter (1.4yd) deep water obstacles without preparation, up to 2 meters (2.2yd) with minor preparation, and up to 4 meters (4.4yd) with full preparation. The neutral steering is amazing, you are able to swivel your tank easily, and can be used to boost turret rotation speeds. Monthly production grew to 1520 tanks as new factories began to manufacture components of the vehicle and existing factories increased their production potential. In 1979, due to issues caused by the transmission, the French Army began to modernize its fleet of tanks to AMX-30B2 standards, which included a new transmission, an improved engine and the introduction of a new OFL 105 F1 fin-stabilized kinetic energy penetrator. Another seven, with an improved sleeker turret cast, were manufactured between 1961 and 1963. The first prototypes were built in 1965 at the Krauss-Maffei factory. It ignores any angle, except for ricochet and deals damage by metal-flakes which are blown off inside the armour by the exterior explosion. The AMX-30 is a main battle tank designed by Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX, then GIAT) and first delivered to the French Army in August 1966. Archived post. HESH rounds extremely effective against light targets, Reasonably fast reload time, can be reduced to 6.7 seconds, A well coordinated squad of Leopards can effectively take over a match, Potential to be an extremely efficient vehicle in the right hands, Some parts of the turret (mainly the mantlet) can bounce rounds from the right angles, Essentially non-existent armour that can't stop any more than 20 mm rounds reliably, Tankers unaccustomed to APDS may struggle with the stock vehicle, Like all MBTs, there is ammunition stored adjacent to the driver, 4-man crew complement, reasonably close-packed, Easy prey for high-calibre autocannons such as those found on the ZSU-57-2, HEATFS and APDS rounds have sub-par post-penetration effectiveness, often taking multiple rounds to destroy vehicles, HEATFS detonates when it hits a fence or bush. Against targets with known ammunition storage, it's possible to try to detonate it with a well-placed shot; keep in mind, however, that ammo detonations always occur with a random chance, taking out crew members is more reliable to destroy your enemies. By the end of production, 3,571 units of AMX-30s and its variants had been manufactured. The Belgian army received 334 Leopard 1s, equipping 8 tank regiments with 40 Leopard 1s each. Dalam pembuatannya, pabrik asal Bandung ini membuat . It had a 105mm gun, firing a then advanced high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead known as the Obus G. The Obus G used an outer shell, separated from the main charge by ball bearings, to allow the round to be spin stabilized by the gun without spinning the warhead inside which would disrupt jet formation. [4] Although the 48-metric-ton (53-short-ton) vehicle was comparable to contemporary battle tanks in firepower and engine power, it suffered from distinct disadvantages, including an antiquated track design. !Das Spiel knnt ihr hier kostenlos downloaden: www.worldoftanks.euWollt ihr euer Replay von mir analysiert haben, dann schaut bitte hier vorbei und lest euch vorher die Teilnahme Regeln bitte durch:http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/571078-youtubetwitch-mouzakrobat/Replays sind aus der Version: 9.17 These did not include gun stabilization from 1971, and from 1972[55] replacing the original coaxial heavy machine gun with a dual purpose 20-millimeter (0.79in) autocannon against light armour and helicopters, with the ability to depress to 8 degrees and elevate to 40 degrees. The upgrades on mobility also includes upgraded torsion bars, hydraulic shock absorbers, new slightly larger road wheels, and Diehl Type 234 tracks. [2] The new vehicle was designated the AMX 50. Comparing: AMX 30 1er prototype vs. Leopard 1 . [105], AMX-30 production occurred at the Atelier de Construction de Roanne in the town of Roanne. This made Germany lose much interest in a common tank project also. Due to political issues between Chile and Argentina, the former placed an order for 46 tanks, although this was later cut short to 21 when the contract was canceled by the French government in 1981. Two more prototypes were fabricated in 1972. [16] The specifications (FINABEL 3A5)[17] for the new tank called for a lightweight and mobile battle tank, setting the weight limit to 30 metric tons (33 short tons) and compromising the ability to heavily armour the vehicle. T-64, while NATO forces employed the Chieftain, AMX-30, Leopard I, and M60, plus the initial attempt at a common US-German tank, the MBT-70. Using a simplified inertial guidance system and a solid propellant rocket motor, the Pluton has a maximum range of 120 kilometers (75mi). [139] Experimentally, a new regimental organisational structure was used, with three squadrons of thirteen tanks, a command tank and six reserve vehicles, instead of the then normal strength of 52 units. Frontally, the angle of the hull can bounce shots once in a while, but you're better off not to rely on this. Some are kept in reserve in Chile and Ecuador due to their light frames and ease of use in soft soils like in the jungles in their countries. [107] By 1971, about 180 vehicles were in service; in 1975 delivery began of the last 143 units of the final eighth batch of the original order. This ammunition is able to penetrate 150mm of armor angled at 30 degrees from horizontal at 5km. )[96] Developed to defend against low-altitude attacks, the system included two Hispano-Suiza 30-millimeter (1.2in) 831 A automatic guns, coupled to an Oeil-noir fire control system. 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